Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Similarly Similar - Rhetoric, Opinion and Pre-Writing

Pre-writing. Whenever I hear "pre-" anything I think of that master of language George Carlin. He hated prefixes. "'At this time we'd like to begin the pre-boarding process.' What is that? Pre-board - to get on before you get on?"

Ok, that probably wouldn't make the final cut on a 5/5 essay. Nor will most of my blog entries. But I think they are useful tools for writing and learning about writing. I suppose it's all a pre-writing exercise, building up to a final paper or, in some cases a magazine article or even a book. Is there value in pre-writing exercises. Yes, of course. I suppose that's why we're pushed by teachers to participate in exercises such as brainstorming, outlining and rough drafts. Pre-writing allows you to "exercise your writing muscles" as one professor told my class once. It gets the creative juices flowing, allows you to test your ideas on paper. Often contrasted by how much sense they make in my head, they often don't look as great in print.

So writing allows us to ramble, to grumble, to lay it all out. Often the work I produce in pre-writing exercises becomes all the stuff I don't put in my paper. It usually ends up in the recycle bin. But from all this pre-writing mess I eventually start to form solid ideas. And I don't feel obligated to keep much of my pre-writing because, honestly, I'm not invested in it like I am a 3rd or 4th draft.

I'm far removed from high school English classes, but I remember a great deal of emphasis being placed on outlining - rigid outlines. I was required to submit a formal outline of everything I turned in for one teacher. Of course, I cheated and created the outline based on the paper I had already written. In college I feel as if I was already expected to know how to write (even though I'm paying lots of money to have someone teach me HOW to write). So I must say that pre-writing in general hasn't had much of an emphasis placed upon it. Maybe it was my hillbilly education or my avoiding all manner of planning, but I much prefer to just start writing and see where it goes.

I probably could stand learning some rules, tips and tricks on the writing process. So I'm curious to hear what everyone else has learned. I'd never heard of the 'ol 5/5 essay thing until Monday. I guess that's why I'm here.

As for Gorgias, I think I followed until he said: "All who have and do persuade people of things do so by molding a false argument. For if all men on all subjects had both memory of things past and awareness of things present and foreknowledge of the future, speech would not be similarly similar, since as things are now it is not easy for them to recall the past nor to consider the present nor to predict the future. So that on most subjects most men take opinion as counselor to their soul, but since opinion is slippery and insecure it casts those employing it into slippery and insecure successes" (2). I think he's equating persuasion to "false argument," which seems to me simply a euphemism for lying. Perhaps it's no small accident that many people have this opinion of rhetoric. Though Gorgias uses rhetoric to try to persuade us to share his opinion. I know, that's not what he would call it. But isn't that really what it is? Or is that simply my opinion? Now my head is spinning...

5 comments:

  1. Ah, to paraphrase...mmm, so lovely.
    "The instant you breath second hand smoke...you will die."

    "Why do you need an assault rifle...to kill people?"

    "That disease didn't exist 10 years ago, someone made it up."

    "What has to happen to you before you realize you are being taught how to write?"

    Think of a boulder in the stream, the water needing something to work against to take shape :-]

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    1. Love the metaphor Jesse. You're just going to have to explain it to me as usual...

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  2. I am with you on this and that is exactly the point in the piece when my eyebrows raised. The thing is I think that it is at this point he invalidates his entire argument. He is going along making good logical statements with an agenda. Then he basically says that if a man has an agenda, which all men (and women) do, then he is molding a false argument. Hello? Am I wrong?

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    1. No, I think either we're right or Gorgias is fucking with us Dezri. I too think he diminishes his argument at that point.

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  3. I like this a lot Matt. I'm a notorious pre-writer, so it's definitely a change in viewpoint, but not a bad one at all. I certainly see where you're coming from and why.
    As for Gorgias, I have to say that one of Dezri's comments (I can't remember who's blog it was on) was spot on. She suggested that he was in the business of proving that rhetoric can prove anything and therefore Gorgias would not have been bothered in the least by the implication that he was condoning lying, because to him it was six of one and half-a-dozen of the other.

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